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Since it's coming in just a little over a month, I figured it's a good time to make a thread for this.

First off, something that really shakes up the old formula: skills are gone. It's all SPECIAL and perks now, and now perks are strictly locked behind having a sufficient SPECIAL value. Here's a chart of all the level-up perks, which should clear up some confusion on how it works. Most of what would be skills now have their own governing perks with multiple stages, like hacking, sneak, and gun proficiencies. There are also perks you can find in the environment like before, and now you can gain permanent perks from magazines like Grognak the Barbarian, which used to temporarily boost their respective skill. Boosting SPECIAL stats is no longer handled through Intense Training, but now you can boost stats any time you wish by putting a perk point into the respective stat to unlock the next perk tier for that stat. There is no longer a level cap and IIRC you'd need to be level 137 275 or something to have all the perks and SPECIAL stats maxed out. You also only start with 28 SPECIAL points instead of 35+5, so boosting those stats is now greatly encouraged and almost enforced.

However, gun proficiency is handled WAY differently now. The stat that boosts the weapon you use now depends no longer on if it's a gun or energy weapon, but which class of weapon it is. Agility boosts pistols and automatic rifles, Perception boosts single-shot rifles and explosives (which are handled differently now? not sure), and Strength governs unarmed, melee, heavy weapons, AND shotguns. Higher levels of weapon proficiency perks (which you get by putting in more perk points) can unlock side perks within it. For example, putting multiple perk points into pistol handling (Gunslinger) will grant you a passive chance to disarm enemies on hit, or instantly cripple limbs.

As for the difference between guns and energy weapons, there are now perks that govern how well you can modify each type of weapon in the Intelligence perks. There's also melee and armor modding perks in Strength.

It seems to me most dialogue options that would have been skill checks are now just SPECIAL checks (for example, speech checks are now just Charisma checks); and perk checks like Gun Nut (modding guns), Science! (changed to modding energy weapons), and Lady Killer/Widowmaker still exist.

All the perks we know exist for sure are on the Wiki. I have my own theories about the perks not covered on that page, if any of you would like to know. I refer to them by stat and rank, so for instance hacking would be INT4.

TL;DR INT isn't overpowered any more, and PER is no longer a dump stat simply because of the awesome perks under its governance.

Edited by buddhazilla.

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I preordered for $45 and am super hyped

My Steam Controller is also going to arrive November 10th, so this is going to be 150% fucking amazing. I won't be able to play it the day of (Nov 10th is a tuesday so I'll be on campus from 10am-11pm) but we were all given reprise via Veterans Day.

 

I'm so glad they put weapon stats more across the board. It was usually dumb to not amass Agility and Light Guns.

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Big fan of Fallout, little fan of Bethesda.

I want this game to be good so badly, but watching the current gameplay videos they have available, I'm not too impressed. Will be waiting for reviews and/or potential sales a year down the line to pick it up.

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I'm watching it from a safe distance.

Afteer the trailer with reused Skyrim assets and the ludicrous price, I'll wait a few years to get it.

HIGH LEVELS OF WRONG DETECTED

 

​1 - ludicrous price, what?

2- Fallout 4 will have double the assets of skyrim. Even if they did re-use skyrim assets (and theres really no evidence they did), they've still created just as much if not more. 

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I'm watching it from a safe distance.

Afteer the trailer with reused Skyrim assets and the ludicrous price, I'll wait a few years to get it.

​1 - ludicrous price, what?

2- Fallout 4 will have double the assets of skyrim. Even if they did re-use skyrim assets (and theres really no evidence they did), they've still created just as much if not more. 

​As I said, the first trailer they released had a bunch of stuff reused from Skyrim, which may have changed after that.

And the game price around here is around $70-$80.

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​As I said, the first trailer they released had a bunch of stuff reused from Skyrim, which may have changed after that.

And the game price around here is around $70-$80.

​Examples pls. And more than just "THIS LOOKS SIMILAR SO THEREFORE ITS THE SAME."

 

As for price, yeah I'm in Canada and it's the same. But literally every AAA title costs that much. I could understand you thinking games in general just cost too much. It is getting kind of ridiculous, and we can't really blame inflation. Especially when this was full price.

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​Examples pls. And more than just "THIS LOOKS SIMILAR SO THEREFORE ITS THE SAME."

 

As for price, yeah I'm in Canada and it's the same. But literally every AAA title costs that much. I could understand you thinking games in general just cost too much. It is getting kind of ridiculous, and we can't really blame inflation. Especially when this was full price.

​I cant find good examples, but I remember seeing that a lot of animations were basically the same as Skyrim, I could be wrong though.

And most games usually have a fair price, but usually most AAA games are going for $60+, with almost every store but Steam sells it along a 25%+ voucher. Why not just make the game $45 then?

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System specs are out. They've been entered into System Requirements Lab so go test your rig.

I pass everything for recommended except for the CPU which for some unearthly reason is an i7. 

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DOUBLE POST BECASUE HYPE

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/3rjrst/full_fallout_4_map_ripped_from_companion_app/

 

IT EXTENDS MUCH FURTHER NORTH THAN EXPECTED! WE GET TO ROMP THROUGH SALEM!

AND I GET TO SET UP SHOP IN MY REAL LIFE HOUSE!!!

​Dammit I'm jealous. I want a fallout game based in atlanta. All I get are stupid walking dead games that show me how much more Macon would suck if there were zombies.

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So there's a shit ton of voice acting, and it's been confirmed that your Mr Handy, Codsworth, has lines for the top 1000 most common names, so he can actually say your name.

 

​AND JOHN CENA IS ONE OF THEM

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.

 

High STR, High PER, High END, low everything else.

 

The "you can't see me" build.

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