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It really annoys me that saying gg at the end of any game has become the standard/polite thing to do

 

Especially when I play mtg; if I lose after an interactive game and my opponent beats me with a clever move, well done, gg ! But if I never draw a third land or get godhanded by the storm player on turn 3 then it was not gg, it was bg. It's fine that I lost, chance is part of the game, but it was NOT GG.

 

What do you say at the end of bg, when it is fine it was bg but it was not gg?

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I don't say anything. I just seethe quietly.

 

I also find it funny how, most of the time, all of the "gg"s are coming from the winning team/player. Gosh, how sportsmanlike of you to congratulate yourselves.

 

*seeeeeeeethe*

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I tend to only say 'gg' in the wild if it seemed like it was actually enjoyable for both sides, or occasionally the sarcastic one if me/my team are getting BM'd and manage to turn a game around.

 

There are those ggs and there are the 'polite', mandatory ggs in scrims/tournaments that don't really bother me that much, it's less about the meaning of the phrase. Just a nicer way of saying thanks for the game.

 

2 minutes ago, Razputin said:

Overwatch players getting so salty over gg ez that Blizzard censored it is funny as shit though

The funniest part to me is that the phrases it gets filtered to have the exact same impact

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I hate the polite ggs though, it takes away the "value" of it if it actually was a good game. I guess you say gg out of politeness for any game and actually type out good game if it genuinely was

 

"yw" for "you win" or something like that would be preferable, or seething silence as cube said

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I don't usually like saying gg unless a game was really close but I'm very rarely the first person to say it. For games like 100% Orange Juice I sometimes have good games but I feel like it'd just be a jerk move if I had stomped and no one else had fun.

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For the most part, I don't really type anything at the end of a multiplayer games. There have of course been times where I've typed out a smug "ez" in a particularly frustrating game (dota 2) or times where I've had a genuinely close and intense game and I'll type out gg, but I mostly stay quiet. As for the concept of "manners" in video games, I really have no issue with it. My first real experience with a very competitive online community was with the release of Starcraft 2. In Starcraft culture it is considered a standard show of respect to type out "gl hf" or something of a similar vein in the beginning of the game and type "gg" when you tap out. Pros did it tournament play and casuals did it on ladder, that's just how people interacted in that game, be it Brood War or Starcraft 2 so I got used to it.

 

Does gg being used as a courtesy/manner term take away from the meaning of it? I'd say there's an argument to be made in the literal sense that people type it out of habit when a game ends, regardless of whether it was a good game or not, but I can't really say I get hung up over it. I'm more upset when you're playing a team game and the shittiest player on the team that beat you is talking shit in allchat as if they weren't fucking garbage and got carried hard.

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I like to say Good Work if my team does something well together. I actually don't even use gg, I'll just say good game or well played or whatever because I don't like shortening stuff.

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I used to use it a lot more when I was a super young kid playing Quake III Arena and MoHAA and it was just a courtesy that everyone used. There was a period of time where I saw people getting upset that "today's generation of gamers don't use gg because of consoles and bad manners bla bla". It's just an old thing that has stuck around.

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If I type GG when I win it's because I feel for the people on the enemy team who lost because I know it it not fun to lose and I wish to show them some respect by being a good and honourable player

 

If someone on the enemy team types GG when they win it's because they're a fucking cunt who's just trying to brag about how they won and they would never in a million fucking years type it if they lost.

 

In all seriousness though I think in most cases GG doesn't really communicate anything. Obviously everyone knows what it means, but the fact that it became the standard thing to say has made it lose that meaning. If you take the view that all multiplayer games where someone CAN say 'gg' are about overcoming an obstacle (namely, the enemy players) then when someone says GG to you you don't think "Oh wow this other player said that was a good game, therefore my skills must have been at a level where I posed at least some challenge to them in order for them to have had an enjoyable experience". GG may stand for Good Game, but it doesn't really mean that anymore. I think this is a primarily British thing, but it's like when you see somebody and say "You alright?". You're not actually asking them if they're alright, you're just saying it. In games I don't think anyone (or at least the majority of players, myself included) actually mean it when they say GG, I think it's just a habit.

 

If it were up to me then I think in most cases you shouldn't even have the opportunity to say it, because I don't think two teams should be able to communicate with each other. All-chat in games is for the most part simply used for shit talking, and if these companies like Riot, Valve and Blizzard are as intent on fostering a 'nice' community as they like to make out (as shown through them handing out mutes/bans for shit talking) then I have to genuinely wonder why they even have it as a feature in their games because it seems to only serve to make the situation worse.

 

I think the only situation where I can think of all-chat serving an actual purpose is in Dota when you pause a game and then explain your reasons for doing so to the enemy team so they don't unpause (which in my experience they always do anyway). But honestly I think that that's just a remnant of the fact that Dota evolved from a WC3 mod, and Valve were (understandably) unwilling to change major features about the game at that point in development due to them being pretty key to preserving the feel of the original mod.

 

I've never liked all-chat in games. If I for example lose a game of overwatch and a guy on my team gives me shit for how I play, then I care less because fuck it, at least that guy being a dick ate a loss too. Whereas if I play and someone on the other team gives me shit then that feels worse because if they're playing better than me I can't really argue anything back, because yeah, they are playing better.

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Completely frank, I don't know how anyone gets anything out of those two letters, and I especially don't know why it sends people into a rage. Just ignore them if you don't care for it.

 

I don't say anything because it really doesn't mean anything to me to say gg or not.

Edited by Veez
Completely failed to answer the question whoops

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In an competitive environment I like to type GG or say it over comes to my team because people would normally say GG at the end of a game in sc2 and Glhf at the beginning. 

I especially like typing it when the game is very equal in terms of skill and it could've went either way because to me that is a good game, though losing does still taste sour to me. 

 

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1 hour ago, Paero said:

 

I've never liked all-chat in games. If I for example lose a game of overwatch and a guy on my team gives me shit for how I play, then I care less because fuck it, at least that guy being a dick ate a loss too. Whereas if I play and someone on the other team gives me shit then that feels worse because if they're playing better than me I can't really argue anything back, because yeah, they are playing better.

When in doubt, blame your team. :snipah:

 

One of the few benefits of playing console games is not having to deal with shit-talk by the enemy team, thanks to no chat feature due to the lack of keyboards. Otherwise they have to take the time to pm you directly, of which takes a lot of time with just a controller.

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1 hour ago, Veez said:

Completely frank, I don't know how anyone gets anything out of those two letters, and I especially don't know why it sends people into a rage. Just ignore them you don't care for it.

Telling me I shouldn't be angry only makes me angrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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46 minutes ago, John Caveson said:

When in doubt, blame your team. :snipah:

 

One of the few benefits of playing console games is not having to deal with shit-talk by the enemy team, thanks to no chat feature due to the lack of keyboards. Otherwise they have to take the time to pm you directly, of which takes a lot of time with just a controller.

I remember back in the Halo 3 days, this guy, SergeantPancakes, got so fuckin pissed at me and my brother that he actually took the time to get in front of the Xbox 360 camera add-on thing and send us a picture of his spread asshole. Also sent a picture of him holding a kitten while also giving us the middle finger. Dude had fat fuckin sausage fingers, bigger than the kitten!

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This made me think a bit. First I thought "gg" is the internet equivalent of a cashier saying "Have a great day!" They may not mean it but they say it to be nice, and you can't really fault them for that. Then I realized it's the internet so 90% of the time the fuckers are doing it to be assholes and they wouldn't dare say that shit if they were in ass-kicking range.

 

But I don't really say anything in games unless someone mentions me, if it's positive I'll thank them if it's negative I'll start a blood feud.

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The only thing I'll say at the end of the match is a "nice push/hold/job team" in teamchat, and only if it was actually a nice push/hold/job.

I've always considered "gg" (the phrase) to be disingenuous at best and downright petty at worst, but if it's a particularly close match, I'll congratulate either team. Basically, I hate that the phrase "gg" is "polite" and therefore almost required, but I use the sentiment of "gg" if it's actually deserved. Sometimes I get reeeeeeally snarky with 3 seconds left before next map, or when the offending player is gone, if it's truly a bg.

15 hours ago, Razputin said:

Overwatch players getting so salty over gg ez that Blizzard censored it is funny as shit though

Thing is, since everyone knows the censor pool, the sentiment of "gg ez" is still conveyed through the censor, making said censor worthless. Also, they're all so absurd because they're nonsensical self-burns, and those really don't make the one saying "gg ez" look bad, especially if he's right.

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1 hour ago, ToasterToastin' said:

 

Thing is, since everyone knows the censor pool, the sentiment of "gg ez" is still conveyed through the censor, making said censor worthless. Also, they're all so absurd because they're nonsensical self-burns, and those really don't make the one saying "gg ez" look bad, especially if he's right.

In my opinion the censor effectively neutered the bragging. It's tough to get mad at someone spouting inane gibberish, regardless of what they meant, and any permutation (like 'ez', 'ggez' or 'gg easy') loses effectiveness because it stands out by not being the standard. Before the censor, there was way too many people spamming 'gg ez,' the chat sensor decimated its usage. 

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