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This just in, Valve has started to unban several people from talking against the paid mods, supporting the petition and for making protest mods. THEIR DAMAGE CONTROL WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS! GIGA! CONTROL! BREAAAAAAKERRRR!!!

http://imgur.com/gallery/rLp9f I want to watch this now.

[–]GabeNewellBellevueCONFIRMED VALVE CEO[S] -785 points 2 hours ago Actually money is how the community steers work.permalinkembedparent [–]one_long_year 1000 points 2 hours ago*x5 Funny, the community successfully steered modding work in Elder Scrolls for about ten fucking years with nothing but goodwill and thanks, before you guys got involved.

Yes and no. I dont consider myself 'adult', but I understand about paying taxes and supporting your family, my dad had to deal with his morals a lot of times on his job (lawyer). Still, if he needs to support his family, I dont think he will get much by whoring to Valve/Beth for a few dollars IF the actually sells $400 worth of mods. If he did had time to support his hobby, I dont think he will have time to get back on that to get those pennies.

Of course Robin would say something like that, they are the ones getting more than the actual modders for hosting the files. And what a fucking joke that was, 'turning the hobbies into something serious' by paying them 25%? Even the Apple store pays a bigger share than that. And also he goes and compares it to TF2/Dota/CS items. No, you fucking cunt, making virtual hats and modding a game are two completely different things. ​THIS makes me mad. He couldnt update it anymore, has a job and all that to take care, yeah I get it, but Valve throws him some bread crumbs and SUDDENLY he found all the time of the world to do it! Do you mean to tell me he will give up on a stable job to whore himself to Valve/Beth like that? He can eat a bag of dicks and choke on it for all I care.

​About 4 people repping his every post on the Magical Starburst thread on the Forum Games.

I know I look like I'm going 'THE END IS NEAR', but you just have to look around the modding forums. People are hiding their mods out of fear, some mods are being taken from Nexus and being uploaded on Steam with pay walls, some mods that werent updated for several months and suddenly the modder has refound his passion to mod again! SkyUI, one of the most used mods on Skyrim, wasnt updated for months, and suddenly the modders reappear to say that 3.0 will happen soon, FOR A PRICE ON STEAM, and then they put it like it is the best thing that could ever happen to it and one of the modders just being the biggest smartass that I've ever seen. For fucks sake, Skyrim has lost about 5% on positive reviews on Steam, thats around 5000 reviews! The first page is full of negative reviews now (with around 3000 upvotes on each), the game may be good, but that shows the ripples. I dont know about now, but mods could remove Steam reviews before. But as you noticed, one thing I really hate are dumb company decisions based on greed, followed by massive damage control, so I'll keep following this with SIMMERING RAGE and disapointment. Bonus - The guy that made the 'Remove all Imperials' mod got community banned. I'd say it was because of this nick, but I doubt it.

​I would believe this if they didnt take 75% of the modder like it is a fair share, for doing 5% of the work (tools and hosting) But yeah, Gabe is just one guy and I know about the Steam support/community mods enough to know most of them are terrible fuckwads, even EA/Origin support is a hundred times better than Steam's. Still, he expected the backlash, I know he did, he fucking worked with mods for years, Steam was created as a DRM for mods. Although, its too late now. The damage is already done and even if Valve does a massive backpedalling, removes this and writes a apology letter to modders and users, I dont think stuff will change. A lot of modders changed, some removed mods so people wont steal them, some removed their mods to put them as paid mods on the workshop, some that stopped updating their mods are suddenly back with new versions on the workshop, some are even changing stuff on their old free mods so people have to purchase the paid ones (!), the guy that mades Midas Magic actually put FUCKING POPUP ADS (!!!!) if you use the free mod, people are even supporting mod piracy, something I'd call you crazy if you said 2 days ago. The sense of community is gone and now a lot of people are just watching their own backs so they dont get backstabbed, or jumping to backstab the people that supported them until now.

Gabe is there just for last resort damage control. And its not working that well, since he is dodging almost every single question and not talking about the important parts like why in the name of FUCK they decided to do this or the modding community starting to fall apart due to people hiding their mods/stealing mods/removing their free mods to put it on paid workshop. He said that 'censoring is stupid', but I'm pretty sure almost all discussions on the paid mods are gone, along with several people community banned and had all their posts (even screenshot and profile ones) erased from Steam

Looking at Gabe posts, he is avoiding pretty much every question people are asking him.

A bit too late on that, since they already blocked dozens of discussions, comment sections, hidden rating, banned users from community, removed links and all that.

One thing is making hats and skins, other is changing how a game works. If I did a mod that added more content than a paid DLC, but still got the same share as someone that did a new pair of shoes, I'd be pissed. I kinda feel sorry for the modder that commited virtual seppuku, but I feel he deserved at the same time. I mean holy shit what a mess he got into. Aside agreeing to something that half of the PC community would skin him alive, he goes and puts on the page that the mod is EARLY ACCESS and that the price WILL INCREASE with later versions! To keep the train going, his mod used animations from other mod, but since 'Valve said' that if the other mod he was using the animations from was free, then it was allowed, but turns out the modders of that other mod didnt wanted that! Then oh wow, the nightmare began right there. He cant remove the mod from the workshop, unless Valve is legally told to do so, basically Valve now owns his mod and he cant do shit beside keep it hidden from others that didnt bought it (poor 100 retarted users that actually bought it and wont be able to use it). Also, he will never get the money from the people that bought it, because it didnt reach the $400 mark! Then of course, he will get the fame of thief and fucking disgrace of the modding community from agreeing to this shit, aside from the avalanche of messages he must have gotten from people upset/disapointed/American Kirby Angry. Yes, Valve and BethSoft are the rotten core here, but he agreed on this. And it will get MUCH worse, since now there will be a lot of modders wanting to secure their work from being stolen and put on sale, there will be fights, accusations, shit being flinged around, stolen mods, low quality shit, overpriced shit and much more! And there will be NO MODERATION! Valve wants the USERS TO MOD THE WORKSHOP!

​Man, its something he should have expected the backlash, really. Maybe he didnt deserve it, but should have braced for it. If you go and say 'I'll support paid mods', I'll call you insane, its something almost every PC gamer wont agree with, a lot of players are ok with donating to modders for their work, but not paying for mods. Just think if stuff like the Unoffical patches for Oblivion/Skyrim became paid mods, the modders are basically making the actual devs work and getting only 25% (or even less, there are taxes and stuff) of what they would get from a donation. Every modder on that bundle is getting shitted at. Some are even worse because they said they WONT update the free versions of their mods in favor of the paid ones (Wet & Cold and Midas Magic ones IIRC, both free versions didnt had updates for months) and some that said the mod is still on early testing (basically Early Access mods, the fishing one and a set of armor have that on the page) It doesnt helps that Valve is doing all this damage control.

But I liked collecting them on my blocked users list.

WOW I JUST NOTICIED WHY THEY MADE ALL THIS! Looking around, one of the "modders" for the paid mods is a guy that makes Dota stuff, literally all 3 'mods' he put there are Dota skins. Skyrim is one of the most played games on Steam, so Valve wanted to profit out of this, but they couldnt add microtransactions to it like on Dota/TF2/CSGO. Since Skyrim wasnt built to support microtransactions, the only thing Valve could somehow profit from were the mods! This is why you can 'trade' the mods and store them on your Steam inventory! IT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO ADD MICROTRANSACTIONS! I fear other highly played games will also get affected by this in the future. GTA V, Civ V, Garry's Mod, maybe even Payday and Dont Starve. I know Valve wont go back, since they are doing all this damage control so people pay for the mods (hiding rating, blocking discussions and comments, banning users from community)

Talking back on the paid mod shit Valve actually changed the rating system because of this. OH. WOW. They also blocked voting on the other mods, you cant vote at all, they are all greyed out and only shows 'Not enough ratings' and a select few somehow have 4 stars with around 20-30 votes.

​That still doesnt changes the fact that the modder is losing 75% of what he would get (if a retarded user bought the mod (blarg)) through Steam just to bend over to Valve/Bethesda instead of giving directly to him through a donation. And no, Bethesda wouldnt think of that. Really, Valve are the ones that would pull such thing and I do hope to users push this shit back into their asses, but knowing how life goes with Steam and Valve decisions, the shit will stay around making the entire room stink. I mean, WHAT THE FUCK are they thinking? 'Lets pick one of the greatest points of PC Gaming and SHIT ALL OVER IT FOR PROFIT'

Putting prices on mods like they are legit DLC is just plain retarded and greedy, even more that Valve gets 75% of the price for no reason, probably their economist pulled another of his 'how to get money from nothing' ideas like they did with game cards. I will predict a lot of problems with this, such as stolen mods, obscene prices and low quality shit. Its pretty simple, people who buy mods are retarded and deserve to be laughed at, no less. Anyone with half a brain will keep using Nexus and donating directly to the modder instead of giving Valve 75% of the money so other people can profit out of the modder's work.

Next update only at the 27th. Thanks Hussie.

​Why would I pay for what I can get for free. Also, guess what? 5 Nights at Freddy's is getting another sequel. He is actually milking this more than Activision with Call of Duty and EA with The Sims

​Not from me because I already said a lot of times how it is my favorite Crash game, followed by 3/Warped and Kart Racing. Shame it died after this, the Crash of Titans games werent nearly as good and then Activision put it on a bus to hell.

http://www.bundlestars.com/all-bundles/indie-legends-bundle/ This one is a great bundle, Monaco, SpeedRunners, SteamWorld Dig, Guacamelee STC Edition, Divekick, Kingdom Rush, Giana Sisters and The Fall (not Deus EX) for $4

​That I got from all this, John had to sacrifice ALL his other versions to learn to control his time shenanigans powers

Nightmare Luffy is back WITH A VENGEANCE

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