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    Honestly? Science, history, and basic common sense tells us that diversity is a bad thing, and really the onus should be on you to tell me why it's not, but since you asked. Scientifically: Diversity decreases social trust. Both natives and immigrants lose trust. Even kids lose trust! And indeed, trust in our nation is declining (the article makes no mention of diversity, but I didn't expect it to.) Above a certain level (determined by cultural distance and some other things) assimilation does not occur, leading to ethnic conflict (because ethnic groups prefer their coethnics). This effect is observed across every country on the planet. A study observing that there is no city on earth that is both diverse and cohesive, despite the billions spent on trying to make it work. And no, it is not a win-win, it is a lose-lose. Cultural diversity reduces cooperation. However, ideological diversity increases innovation. Don't tell colleges this though, they've got it backwards! Ethnic homogeneity and Protestant traditions (of which we are rapidly losing both) increase social trust. Good fences make good neighbors in Switzerland. Historically: A country ruling over many diverse groups was called an empire. You brought up Caligula, so I will touch on Rome. One of the reasons (although not the sole reason of course) it fell was because as its power waned in the 3rd century there was less and less holding the disparate groups under its control. They were not bound by blood, and as Christianity grew religion could no longer be counted on as a unifier. As the once-great Roman army became increasingly reliant on foederati and nobody watching them the chieftains had ample opportunity to do as they pleased throughout much of the Empire. In short, as long as there is a powerful state who can keep order diversity will not lead to a collapse, except in extreme cases. But as the state weakens and experiences crises diversity greatly exacerbates disorder. Your point about WASPs and other whites has some merit, but people do not simply think "like me" or "not like me". There are different degrees, an Irishman is much more closely related to an Anglo than an African. If I showed you a picture of 5 Irishmen and 5 Englishmen, I'd bet you'd get a couple wrong. But if I showed you 5 Englishmen and 5 Nigerians, well you'd have to be dumb as shit to get that wrong to be honest. And don't even try democracy in a diverse state. Austria-Hungary's political parties tell you enough. In a diverse democracy, elections become a referendum on who you are. Funnily enough, our two-party system might help prevent some of what happened in other diverse democracies from happening here. Of course the Democrats pull in the lion's share of minority votes, and agitate for more minorities so they can make more red states permanently blue. California was solid red for most of the 20th century, if you can believe it. Now we have two senate candidates, both fucking Democrats! Apparently two was too much for us, eh? The only example of a diverse functioning democracy today I can find is Singapore, which every now and then comes under fire for its arguably repressive laws. Might be inspiring, until you realize the city-state of Singapore is more homogeneous than the modern US, and much, much more homogeneous than any of our major cities. Common sense(ically): White parents in the San Francisco Bay Area (i.e., the most liberal people in the country) are pulling their children out of Asian-dominated schools. And these are not bad schools, these are some of the best schools in the country. If the most liberal people object to their kids going to the best schools with the best-performing minority group, what does this tell you about the future of our diverse nation? Gangs, which usually don't have to worry about social norms, tend to be ethnically exclusive. Blood is thicker than water, after all. If you want to see what would happen in a societal collapse, watch how gangs operate now, and imagine what would happen if the lights went out and the police disappeared. It's pretty nasty. (Side note: can you imagine if a white gang firebombed a black neighborhood? Can you imagine what the media, what the president, what their reactions would be?) By the way I love this quote from Wikipedia: Tiger out of the jungle... To top it off, nobody voted for this. No citizen was consulted on whether he wants to be a minority in 50 years. Even the 1965 Immigration Act, the cause for all this wondrous diversity, was based on a lie. Whoops! Even if you disregard or disbelieve all of what I wrote above, all of it, can you at least answer me this: why do we need diversity? Why does our European American culture need to be augmented by and absorb Mexican, Korean, Chinese, Venezuelan, African, Islamic culture? Those places have their own culture in their own parts of the world, where else in the world will we find ours? In enclaves in our own country? That, to me, is sickening to the core. Homogeneity leading to stagnation? You're pulling a fast one on me, right? Or does Japan just have no culture of its own, and have I missed out on the cultural meccas of Yugoslavia, Uganda, and Afghanistan? Map's from the 90s I think so probably the West should be less homogeneous by now, but the point is still there. I do not really understand what you mean by "line in the sand", rarely in history does one group say "Do X and we will revolt." Usually there's just a malaise and low-level civil disorder for a bit, then something happens and everything rapidly goes to shit. Did anybody think in 1910 the killing of a Duke would plunge the world into the biggest war it had ever faced? No, but anybody who was paying attention could see the groundwork being laid. You also seriously underestimate how many people actually fight in wars and such. Only a small percentage of Americans took up arms against the British. About 40% were Patriots, 15% were loyalists, and 45% didn't give a shit either way. So no, apathy will not save us. The same can apply to about every war or social movement, most people simply don't care about politics and go along with the flow - not because they're sheep or dumb or anything, but because they genuinely just don't care. Almost forgot my concise point: Diversity will not destroy a nation by itself (usually), but it will weaken it. And yes, homogeneous societies can go to shit too, if you imply I said that everything would be perfect if we were all one race and religion I will personally aim for your balls in the coming war.
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