without any context, under what circumstances would a GM be ballsy enough to allow anybody to make and play an ogre PC within a Pathfinder campaign (don't look at me like that)
He was going to ban the Shrek, until he got high. He was going to make you reroll, but then he got high. He's going to have to have an ogre and he knows why. Because he got high, because he got high, because he got high.
are the conditions at all different based upon the player/dickhole trying to waste time (AKA me) for no campaign at all actually TRIED to salvage the broken bullshit that is the ogre under Monstrous Races