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​No. Fuck off. It's not "the Muslim world." It's a bunch of lunatics. And people calling Islam as a whole, or the Muslim world, responsible for this is why more people become jaded and join these lunatic movements. Because assholes say shit like this and propagate the cycle. I reiterate: Fuck off.

Id say this is not about how the poor widdle muswims are being literally oppressed in current year but more about how the few ones that actually are terrorists just killed 128 people Im not sure what the exchange rate is between discrimination and being lined up and shot in the back of the head but Im inclined to say that islam is not the big victim here Also going on record that I do not agree with Verumae being banned over this

Enough with the bullshit, this is a political thread on the internet. Literally everyone knows to not fuck up and suck on your ego here.

I think denying that there's an unfortunate amount of Muslims who do believe in hurting others proportional to those who don't is almost as bad as saying they're all bad. A comparison to the Westboro Baptist Church is not really fair. The WBC may be a bunch of annoying fuckers who say and do stupid shit for attention, but at least they haven't killed innocents or founded rogue "states" because of their beliefs (to my knowledge). And to top it off, ISIS continues to gain recruits, even from foreign countries. I'm confident that the majority of Muslims just wish to live their lives in peace and condemn the ones like this, but we shouldn't wave the sadly real issue that there's an unhealthy amount of people that believe in hurting others. As for this incident, this will almost undeniably further boost anti-immigration beliefs in Europe, and especially France, and at this point, I wouldn't say its unjustified. Innocent people shouldn't be dying for some crazed lunatic's beliefs.

​I agree with this. I don't usually care for his opinions and I am certain that his statement regarding Islam could have been articulated better, but did he really deserve a ban? As for the Paris situation, my heart goes out to France and her people. I also think people are getting caught up in the debate about Islam as a whole way too quickly. Must we go through all the usually regurgitated knee-jerk responses to muslim extremist attacks that we always do? Of course anyone with even the slightest amount of sensibility realizes that terrorists =/= all muslims. Can we calm the defense squad down ever so slightly. This isn't about Islam as a whole, currently it's about establishing the facts and recognizing that something terrible happened in the heart of a European nation and that it could happen again. Arguing Islam on an international scale isn't going to solve anything other than stating facts and coming across as daft.

Saying this is an Islam-based ordeal is like saying the Westboro Baptist Church is the average christian church-goer. It ain't true.

​I agree with this. I don't usually care for his opinions and I am certain that his statement regarding Islam could have been articulated better, but did he really deserve a ban? As for the Paris situation, my heart goes out to France and her people. I also think people are getting caught up in the debate about Islam as a whole way too quickly. Must we go through all the usually regurgitated knee-jerk responses to muslim extremist attacks that we always do? Of course anyone with even the slightest amount of sensibility realizes that terrorists =/= all muslims. Can we calm the defense squad down ever so slightly. This isn't about Islam as a whole, currently it's about establishing the facts and recognizing that something terrible happened in the heart of a European nation and that it could happen again. Arguing Islam on an international scale isn't going to solve anything other than stating facts and coming across as daft. ​Keep in mind though, that this is about the third major series of terrorist attacks to happen on French soil this year alone, with another batch of smaller terrorist attacks throughout the land. That Thalys shooting would have been a massive bloodbath too had the perpetrator in that case not been subdued in time. I won't be surprised if France is going to crack down hard on every form of muslim extremism in the following months. They about completely fucking had it with their shit, and rightfully so. I bet if we would jail everyone in favor of the backwards-as-fuck shariah law in Europa, that the terrorist threat is instantly lessened by a huge margin. The religion isn't the biggest factor. The rampant extremism within the religion is.

Madokami is down for good, why live.

​I don't really know. There's not really a way to tell a potential jihadi from a regular muslim without shitting all over their rights. I guess the best thing is to just stop immigration and hope the current generation integrates successfully.

People saying things like "it's totally not islamic extmists, guys" are being blinded by political corectness. Now they all look like dummies now that ISIS took the blame for the attack. Muslims are absolutely involved with Islamic terrorism, don't try to paint them as a scapegoated minority on the level of Jews. How the hell do you talk about Islamic terrorism without talking about Islam? At worst people will start to question why exactly they're letting in millions of Muslims who aren't assimilating to their culture. That's a good thing. Not every Muslim kills people for their religion. Not even the majority do. But quite frankly enough do that something needs to be done. Just restricting immigration and thoroughly vetting those you do let in is a good first step. Never forget that immigration is a public policy issue - same as any other. You should do what's best for the citizenry, and I don't think importing refugees by the literal boatload is helping your citizens much. At best you'll have a bunch of low-skilled workers that will probably be replaced by machines in a decade or two, at worst you let in a lot of people that hate you and your culture. ​The thing is, it's most likely that attackers were 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants, born and raised in France. Which is what makes it so terryfying. How do you fight an enemy inside, hidden amongst milions of law abiding citizens? How do you fight the leaders steering and planning in the shadows? Full brute force attack like Afghanistan and Iraq? That leads to a situation, where you cut off one head of a hydra, and 3 new ones pop up. Invigilating your citizens? (>implying they don't already do that) How do you fight an enemy that is not there, until it's loo late? How do you evade basicly Witcher 2 situation where non-human population (elves, dwarfs, etc.) is being slaughtered simply by being not humans? This is major security problem that is giving headache to everyone responsible for peace keeping all around the world.

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Muslims are absolutely involved with Islamic terrorism, don't try to paint them as a scapegoated minority on the level of Jews. How the hell do you talk about Islamic terrorism without talking about Islam? At worst people will start to question why exactly they're letting in millions of Muslims who aren't assimilating to their culture. That's a good thing. Not every Muslim kills people for their religion. Not even the majority do. But quite frankly enough do that something needs to be done. Just restricting immigration and thoroughly vetting those you do let in is a good first step. Never forget that immigration is a public policy issue - same as any other. You should do what's best for the citizenry, and I don't think importing refugees by the literal boatload is helping your citizens much. At best you'll have a bunch of low-skilled workers that will probably be replaced by machines in a decade or two, at worst you let in a lot of people that hate you and your culture.

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​No. Fuck off. It's not "the Muslim world." It's a bunch of lunatics. And people calling Islam as a whole, or the Muslim world, responsible for this is why more people become jaded and join these lunatic movements. Because assholes say shit like this and propagate the cycle. I reiterate: Fuck off. ​You're right, Mohammed in his bombed-out shack in Syria hears Verumae saying "Fuck islam" and decides THIS is the last straw. Or maybe Abdul, in his comfy European home infinitely better than the constant war and sharia law in his fucked-up homeland hears Verumae saying "Fuck islam" and decides "This man is so insensitive it just makes me want to slaughter a hundred innocents!" By that logic Piss Christ should have inspired massive slaughter of atheists by Christians. But that hasn't happened, has it? Also the WBC comparision is laughable because they're literally 40 people that say mean things that everyone everywhere just laughs at. If this is the worst most extreme modern Christian group you can think of then shit, do I even need to say anything?

ow the edge but i was reasonably happy with this

I don't mean to be distasteful, but this needs to be said: fuck islam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks it's not confirmed yet to be carried out by islamists, but I'll go ahead and wager my entire hat collection on the fact that it is I don't know what the answer is to the islamist problem, but the muslim world has been at war with the west for a while now I'm not particularly fond of france but nobody deserves this, especially not a city of unarmed civilians

thanks chris

Finished Heaven's Feel, which means I'm technically done with Fate/stay night. This was the final time for all three routes together... That being said, I've still only seen 3/5 endings, so there's still a lot of content left for me to sift through if I am interested. Which I probably will be, just not tonight. There's been enough suffering tonight. Bring on Fate/hollow ataraxia I guess? EDIT: It begins.

Charged Baby + Car Battery on Lilith

​Wait a minute... Oh my god how did I not realize... oh holy fucking jesus oh FUCK OH FUCK SOMEONE CALL THE PRESIDENT ... never mind america pretty sure we're safe